at this point, i only have a couple more actual hall of famers to post about, and i am going to wait on them for a bit. in the meantime, i am going to continue these weekly posts with some more players who aren't enshrined in cooperstown (yet?) but who are in my hall of famer collection. rafael palmeiro is one of those players, and i have this card serving as his entry:
that's a 2016 topps tribute rightful recognition autograph, numbered 98/99. here's the back:there is a reason why palmeiro isn't enshrined in cooperstown, and it has to do with his adamant denial of using performance enhancing drugs in front of congress that was followed a couple of months later by a positive test for a banned substance. to me, the plausibility of palmeiro using steroids (aside from one positive test) comes from his tenure with the texas rangers during the same time that jose canseco was there. however, palmeiro's record suggests (again, this is just my opinion) that he did not use them regularly if at all.
one thing that stands out to me is that palmeiro rarely missed a game. in fact, as a regular, palmeiro appeared in fewer than 152 games in a season only in his final year when he was 40, and the strike-impacted years of 1994 and 1995. in those latter years, he still only missed a handful of games, and in 2005 he played in 110 of a possible 131 games prior to his suspension for the aforementioned positive test. there are only 19 people who have appeared in more major league games or had more at bats or plate apperances than palmeiro.
the other thing that makes me wonder about palmeiro is that he was fairly consistent over the course of his career. his home run totals increased after he and canseco became teammates, yes, but his ops in 1991 (two years prior to canseco joining the rangers) was .922, while in 1993 (his first year with canseco as a teammate) was .926.
regardless, the guy could hit. in hindsight, it sure seems like he was allowed to continue playing in 2005 until he reached the 3,000 hit plateau, which he did on july 15. he finished with 3,020 hits, 569 home runs, 585 doubles, and 1,835 rbi. he is 8th all-time in extra base hits and is one of just six players to reach both the 3,000 hit and 500 home run milestone. the others are hank aaron, willie mays, eddie murray, alex rodriguez, and albert pujols.
palmeiro's hall of fame fate will ultimately be decided by one of the veteran committees, and i think that his case will be helped or hindered by what happens with barry bonds, roger clemens, and alex rodriguez in the near future. there is no discounting the positive test, and palmeiro's explanation of it being due to a contaminated b-12 shot from miguel tejada doesn't seem too believable to me, but there is a body of work that in my mind should count for more than the lone test result.
here's my hall of famer collection as its been documented so far:
honus wagner - 2001 topps tribute relic
nap lajoie - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
tris speaker - 2011 topps tribute dual relic green parallel 53/75
eddie collins - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
yogi berra - 1998 donruss signatures significant signatures 1640/2000
sandy koufax - 1998 donruss signatures significant signatures 1707/2000
roberto clemente - 2005 donruss greats hall of fame souvenirs relic
warren spahn - 1999 upper deck century legends epic signatures
willie mays - 1997 topps willie mays reprints certified autograph
pee wee reese - 2001 topps tribute relic
willie mccovey - 2004 upper deck sp legendary cuts legendary sigs 46/50
larry doby - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
carlton fisk - 1999 upper deck century legends epic signatures
tony perez - 2004 fleer national pastime 2002 fleer greats authentic autograph buyback 30/59
ozzie smith - 2019 topps finest finest origins autograph
gary carter - 1999 fleer sports illustrated greats of the game autograph collection
vladimir guerrero - 2000 upper deck legends legendary signatures
babe ruth - 2003 topps tribute world series edition world series tribute relic 351/425
honus wagner - 2001 topps tribute relic
nap lajoie - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
tris speaker - 2011 topps tribute dual relic green parallel 53/75
eddie collins - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
george sisler - 2004 topps tribute hall of fame tribute relic
lou gehrig - 2010 topps tribute relic 96/99
rogers hornsby - 2004 topps tribute hall of fame tribute relic
jimmie foxx - 2013 topps tribute retired remnants relic 91/99
mel ott - 2011 topps tribute quad relic 15/99
paul waner - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
dizzy dean - 2001 topps tribute relic
hank greenberg - 2004 topps tribute hall of fame tribute relic
zack wheat - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
bob feller - 2001 topps archives certified autograph
jackie robinson - 2004 topps clubhouse collection clubhouse relic
ted williams - 1992 upper deck baseball heroes autograph 1067/2000
roy campanella - 2001 topps tribute relic
stan musial - 2002 topps team topps legends autograph
sandy koufax - 1998 donruss signatures significant signatures 1707/2000
roberto clemente - 2005 donruss greats hall of fame souvenirs relic
mickey mantle - 2000 upper deck legends legendary game jerseys relic
ralph kiner - 2000 fleer greats of the game autograph
ernie banks - 1999 upper deck century legends epic signatures
eddie mathews - 1999 fleer sports illustrated greats of the game autograph
al kaline - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
duke snider - 2003 upper deck sp authentic chirography hall of famers 144/250
bob gibson - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
hank aaron - 2004 topps originals 1979 topps all-time record holders rbi 03/32
frank robinson - 1995 upper deck autograph
juan marichal - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
brooks robinson - 2001 topps golden anniversary great autograph
don drysdale - 1993 nabisco all-star autographs
harmon killebrew - 2000 upper deck legends legendary signatures
pee wee reese - 2001 topps tribute relic
lou brock - 2018 topps archives signature series 1989 buyback 53/61
willie mccovey - 2004 upper deck sp legendary cuts legendary sigs 46/50
ray dandridge - 2006 upper deck sp legendary cuts a place in history cut autograph 31/43
jim hunter - 1998 donruss signature series significant signatures 0736/2000
billy williams - 2013 topps museum collection autograph 054/199
willie stargell - 2000 upper deck legends legendary signatures
johnny bench - 2019 topps definitive collection legendary autograph 09/25
red schoendienst - 2012 panini cooperstown signatures 038/549
red schoendienst - 2012 panini cooperstown signatures 038/549
carl yastrzemski - 2000 fleer greats of the game autograph
joe morgan - 2001 upper deck hall of famers cooperstown collection signature jersey
jim palmer - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
rod carew - 2004 topps retired signature autograph
fergie jenkins - 2013 topps five star baseball autograph 154/333
gaylord perry - 2003 topps finest finest moments autograph
fergie jenkins - 2013 topps five star baseball autograph 154/333
gaylord perry - 2003 topps finest finest moments autograph
rollie fingers - 2018 topps archives signature series 1978 topps buyback 1/3
hal newhouser - 1993 front row premium all-time greats autograph
tom seaver - 2013 topps five star baseball autograph 44/50
reggie jackson - 2018 topps tier one tier one talent autograph 19/60
reggie jackson - 2018 topps tier one tier one talent autograph 19/60
steve carlton - 2018 topps five star career year autograph 43/45
mike schmidt - 2002 topps archives autoproof 1980 topps buyback 048/147
nellie fox - 2002 topps tribute milestone materials relic
phil niekro - 2017 panini donruss recollection collection 1983 donruss buyback autograph 13/33
don sutton - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
george brett - 2001 topps finest finest moments autograph
nolan ryan - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
robin yount - 2001 upper deck ultimate collection ultimate signatures 112/150
carlton fisk - 1999 upper deck century legends epic signatures
kirby puckett - 1998 upper deck retro sign of the times autograph
dave winfield - 2003 upper deck sp authentic chirography hall of famers 121/350
ozzie smith - 2019 topps finest finest origins autograph
gary carter - 1999 fleer sports illustrated greats of the game autograph collection
eddie murray - 2004 upper deck sp legendary cuts legendary sigs 45/50
dennis eckersley - 2017 topps archives signature series 1984 topps buyback 47/99
paul molitor - 2016 topps museum collection archival autographs 021/125
wade boggs - 2005 upper deck baseball heroes autograph red parallel 30/49
ryne sandberg - 2016 topps five star autographs gold parallel 17/50
bruce sutter - 2003 topps all-time fan favorites certified autograph
ryne sandberg - 2016 topps five star autographs gold parallel 17/50
tony gwynn - 1997 donruss signature series millennium marks autograph 0702/1000
cal ripken jr - 2018 topps high tek portraitek autograph 32/75
goose gossage - 2003 topps finest finest moments autograph
rickey henderson - 2016 topps tribute certified foundations of greatness autograph 49/50
cal ripken jr - 2018 topps high tek portraitek autograph 32/75
goose gossage - 2003 topps finest finest moments autograph
jim rice - 2005 upper deck past time pennants past time signatures
andre dawson - 2000 fleer greats of the game autograph
roberto alomar - 2015 topps high tek pattern 1 grass/waves gold rainbow autograph 50/50
roberto alomar - 2015 topps high tek pattern 1 grass/waves gold rainbow autograph 50/50
bert blyleven - 2004 upper deck legends timeless teams autograph
ron santo - 2004 topps retired signature autograph
tom glavine - 2019 topps tribute autograph 18/90
tom glavine - 2019 topps tribute autograph 18/90
greg maddux - 2018 topps luminaries masters of the mound autograph 13/15
frank thomas - 2019 topps tier one autographs 42/70
frank thomas - 2019 topps tier one autographs 42/70
craig biggio - 2013 topps five star baseball autograph 019/333
randy johnson - 2019 topps tek high tek autograph
pedro martinez - 2018 topps high tek portraitek autograph 09/60
ken griffey jr - 2003 upper deck game face autograph
ken griffey jr - 2003 upper deck game face autograph
mike piazza - 2014 topps five star autograph 35/50
tim raines - 2018 topps tribute tribute autograph green parallel 26/95
vladimir guerrero - 2000 upper deck legends legendary signatures
chipper jones - 2018 topps tier one tier one talent autograph 11/60
jim thome - 2020 topps archives signature series 2012 topps mini 1/1
jack morris - 2004 donruss timelines recollection collection 1986 buyback autograph 23/45
alan trammell - 2001 fleer greats of the game autograph
roy halladay - 2017 topps archives signature series 2004 topps buyback 15/23
edgar martinez - 2017 topps tribute walk off autograph 17/50
roy halladay - 2017 topps archives signature series 2004 topps buyback 15/23
ted simmons - 2013 panini golden age historic signatures
larry walker - 1997 donruss signature series authentic signature
joe jackson* - 2001 upper deck sp legendary cuts sp legendary debut bat card
pete rose* - 2018 panini flawless legendary signatures 15/25
roger clemens* - 1995 upper deck autograph
barry bonds* - 2001 bowman heritage autographs
roger clemens* - 1995 upper deck autograph
rafael palmeiro* - 2016 topps tribute rightful recognition autograph 98/99
alex rodriguez* - 1998 upper deck sp authentic chirography autograph
*not currently in the national baseball hall of fame
you can find the full list of hall of famers (and some not - yet) that i aim to include in this collection at my want list site.
A healthy dose of honesty might do a world of good for his future HOF chances.
ReplyDeleteit couldn't hurt. a tainted b-12 shot administered by miguel tejada just doesn't quite ring true in my opinion.
DeleteI wish all of those guys from that era would have just owned it. Then Cooperstown can put a little asterisk next to their names and let them in. It was a sign of the times and we'll never know who used it or not... or how often PED's were used. Plus what about the PED's like "greenies" that were used in other eras? Where's the line? Some PED's are okay, but others aren't just seems crazy.
ReplyDeleteLol. Sorry. This topic is a touchy one. Cool Palmeiro autograph.
no apology needed - i feel the same way as you and jon in that honesty and ownership of what was done would be the best route for these players. and i don't mean going about it like ryan braun did where he blamed the fedex guy before finally admitting that he cheated. palmeiro's finger wag was just such a strong image that it was going to be difficult to walk back from that when the positive test was revealed. today, enough time has passed, i think.
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